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National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill Passes House

The House passed national concealed carry reciprocity legislation on Wednesday evening by a vote of 272-154.

The bill, H.R. 822, is intended to allow persons who hold a concealed carry permit from one state to also carry anywhere in the country, with the exception of Illinois and Washington, D.C.

Though the bill passed by a wide margin, it was not without controversy on the pro-gun side of the debate. In previous alerts, GOA has pointed out several flaws in the legislation:

•It forces Vermont residents (who do not need a permit to carry) to either obtain an out-of-state permit or to push their state to pass a more restrictive concealed carry law than it now enjoys;
•By requiring permits for reciprocity, the bill undermines efforts at the state level to pass constitutional carry (i.e., Vermont-style carry);
•In restrictive “may issue” states, the bill allows for non-residents to carry firearms in the state while most residents would still be prohibited, and;
•The bill is yet another example of Congress distorting of the Constitution’s Commerce Clause.
Representative Justin Amash (R-MI), who voted against the bill, addressed this last point in a statement, calling H.R. 822 “an unconstitutional bill that improperly applies the Commerce Clause to concealed carry licensing.”

Another freshman Representative, Rob Woodall (R-GA), noted that the right to carry a concealed firearm is already protected by the Second Amendment.

“If the Second Amendment protects my rights to carry my concealed weapon from state to state to state, I don’t need another federal law,” Rep. Woodall said. He went on to remind his colleagues of the original intent of the right to keep and bear arms.

“I don’t believe the Second Amendment was put in the Bill of Rights to allow me to shoot targets [or] hunt for deer and turkey. I think the Second Amendment was put in the Bill of Rights so that I could defend my freedom against an overbearing federal government.”

Anti-gun Amendment Passes

One extremely troubling amendment to the bill was slipped in on a voice vote. Sponsored by Republican David Reichert (“C” rated by GOA), the amendment instructs the Government Accounting Office to:

“Conduct a study of the ability of State and local law enforcement authorities to verify the validity of licenses or permits, issued by other States, to carry a concealed firearm.”

Nowhere in the Constitution is there even a hint of authority for the federal government to “study” the exercising of a right. Even worse, you can be sure that anti-gunners will use any excuse, including this study, to push for some type of national carry license.

The bill now heads to the Senate, where GOA is already working with key Senators to address ALL of the problems with the bill. GOA is also working with Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) on legislation, H.R. 2900, that takes a constitutional approach to concealed carry recognition.

You can click here to send you own Representative a message urging him or her to become a cosponsor of H.R. 2900.

26 comments (Add your own)

1. Will wrote:
it about time The good people should never be treated like crooks take the gun away from the bad people

Thu, December 8, 2011 @ 5:42 AM

2. Joyce Carlson-Cox wrote:
It's about time that this passed! I have had a CCW Permit since 1994 in the State of Utah. I went through extensive extra training by some of the finest instructors and high speed competitors.
Way to go HR-822!

Thu, December 15, 2011 @ 12:36 PM

3. Jim Jackson wrote:
I suspect that if it gets though the Senate (doubtful) we'll still have to check each state's CWP laws if you are doing drivethoughs.

Fri, December 16, 2011 @ 10:37 AM

4. Jim Cox wrote:
I would think that if your driving through the state that there wouldn't be a problem unless you did something that would violate the law in your state. I have driven from east to wesst and never had a problem.

Sat, December 17, 2011 @ 4:54 AM

5. Richard S. wrote:
If the government is not gonna recognize the 2nd amendment, then HR822 needs to take place. In my case, I live in California. I have a Utah non-resident CCW which is recognized by Arizona (actually, one no longer needs a CCW permit in AZ anymore). I travel to AZ (55 miles to my East) several times a week. I also have family in Nevada and Utah. Nevada no longer recognizes Utah's permit. So, I need to unload and secure my weapon when I leave home, can then conceal and carry once in AZ. Before I get to Nevada I must unload and re-secure. As soon as I cross into Utah I can then re-load and conceal carry again. This is absolutely ridiculous! The senate needs to realize law abiding citizens shouldn't be punished for the actions of the criminal element.

Tue, December 27, 2011 @ 7:49 AM

6. David Otto wrote:
I support this Bill.

Fri, December 30, 2011 @ 5:47 AM

7. james wrote:
I got my ccw permit about 12 years ago and i spent almost 10 years traveling the us as a journalist for almost 5 years i had to unload my gun when i crossed into Mo. "Now I don't have to" then when i got to ill I had to not only unload my gun I had to lock my gun in one saddle bag on my bike and the bullets in the other! when i went to La. i had to display my gun in plain sight to be in compliance! but i don't think the federal government has any business in this! the second amendment gives me the right to carry a gun to protect me and mine! end of discussion! we don't need 822 if your state legislators don't want to pass ccw in your state vote them out!

Wed, January 18, 2012 @ 6:35 PM

8. Ronald Musk wrote:
I am a Vietnam veteran and have had a permit for ten years in Georgia and travel to my home state of Rhode Island and don;t feel safe in some places I go through, and I fought for this right

Sun, January 29, 2012 @ 2:53 PM

9. Joseph Klar wrote:
We need the same right to carry on military installations. I work on an Army base and have to drive through bad neighborhoods to get to work. I have a CCW, but day to day I can't carry because it is a felony to carry on a govt installation or even have it in my car. So much for stopping for milk on the way home.

Mon, January 30, 2012 @ 5:11 AM

10. James Brady wrote:
When will this bill go to the Senate ? Please email me with the answer... Thanks

Sun, February 12, 2012 @ 11:25 AM

11. Scot wrote:
The only way to have peace by the masses is to have the masses harmed! If the thugs know we have weapons to defend ourselfs, then thier less likely to offend! Common sense goes along ways!

Mon, February 13, 2012 @ 6:59 AM

12. Reevus wrote:
I can't believe the occupier in chief will sign this. Why would he support those bitter clingers, clinging to their bibles and guns?

Thu, February 16, 2012 @ 9:30 PM

13. Tom Boyd wrote:
we need a countrywidde ccl and laws,there are so many differant laws in so many states, we shouldent have to worry going from one state to another if we are breaking a law that will land us in jail, we arent out to break laws just to protect ourselves

Sat, February 18, 2012 @ 5:34 PM

14. Troy Adams wrote:
Unfortunately i think this law is a necessity, since many of the states in the us have laws preventing or limiting the carry of law abiding citizens. I think the best law would be one that limits a states ability to pass laws to prevent the carry of law abiding citizens.

Sun, February 19, 2012 @ 8:36 AM

15. Armando lara wrote:
Illinois needs the ccw right now

Tue, February 28, 2012 @ 8:47 AM

16. Daryl wrote:
Being a lifelong (rural upstate) New Yorker, with a concealed carry license, I am quite sure this will never fly in NY. Given a choice between allowing permit/license holders from other states to carry in NY and allowing NOBODY to carry in NY, I can assure you that our legislature will choose the latter. If the national reciprocity bill is ever signed into law, I believe, the NY Legislature will adopt Illinois' CCW policy. I would very much like to be able to legally carry anywhere I go but there are several states who, rather than comply with national reciprocity, will just devise a work-around. I think a better idea is to ratify the Bill of Rights and sign the Second Amendment into law. Oh wait…we already did that!

Mon, March 5, 2012 @ 5:52 AM

17. cojonius maximus wrote:
It's either a right or it isn't. One does not need a permit or a license to exercise any other right expressed in the Bill of Rights.

The only correct version of carry laws are those that recognize the 2nd amendment such as Vermont.

Tue, March 13, 2012 @ 5:21 AM

18. gunny wrote:
I think its way past time that law abiding citizens are given their second amendment rights to carry concealed weapons anywhere in the US. As a veteran, I served my country to protect my government, friends and family from harm or danger. How can one protect his property or family if the state he lives in stifles his CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to bear arms? The crooks aren't scared of a justice system that defends them more than its citizens, but they will fear a citizen who will use firearms to protect his property and family! Superior firepower is always a detriment to crime. May GOD bless those who fight for our civil liberties!

Thu, March 15, 2012 @ 3:36 AM

19. denny wrote:
I have had a permits to carry all of my adult life. I'm 57,years old. My first permit was because of my employment in the justice department. In the 36,years that I have carried, I had to pull it once. To this day, I can recall what went through my mind in that split second. The threat end, and I removed my finger from the trigger, no one hurt or dead.
My age at the time was, I had just turned 23. People who carry legally know what to do and when to it. When we go in to a state where our permits are not honored. We have to do a lot to stay within the law. My question is, if I have a driver license from my state, then why is it honored in all states and different countries. I don't need a license to drive elsewhere, but I have to either have a permit honored in that state for a gun. If not unload it and lock it up. People there more people killed by vehicles than guns.
If I passed the background checks and do what is required to have a permit issue, then I should be allowed to carry in every state. I can drive in every state. I have voiced my opinion and I respect yours too. Thank you.

Wed, April 4, 2012 @ 12:10 PM

20. Oscar wrote:
So now what?? Do we need to do anything else to push this along?? By the way, I agree with all of the above, just not real sure what this means for us. Is my Utah permit now good in Nevada, California??

Wed, April 4, 2012 @ 1:28 PM

21. Matthew wrote:
I really don't understand what the issue is with Illinois. Aren't they a state in the United States governed by the same laws as the rest under the Constitution? If they aren't they should secceed from the Union and be their own little stupid country with a monitary system all their own and post no tresspassing signs all around the border. The Constitution is one of the only things in existance that is finite, absolute and binding. PERIOD. The 2nd Admendment doesn't say, "Till some state decides differintly." And New Jersey not allowing its residents to carry open or concealed...2nd Admendment violation there. And California..LORDY, California...That state wipes it's ass with the Constitution then flushes it. Glad I live in PA. At least there is a LITTLE sense in the law here. I say make everyone that can legally carry a handgun go and get trained how to properly use one, clean one and take care of it, then, make it law to carry it when you go somewhere. Crime would drop to ZERO or nearly so across the land. Not one...NOT ONE "gun control law" has EVER prevented a crime from happining.

Fri, May 25, 2012 @ 5:58 PM

22. David wrote:
I guess we all need to wake up and realize theres no one in Washington with the common sense to follow the Constitution unless it helps their cause at the time. We all have the right to carry but they and the states continue to inject their work arounds to limit our rights. The only way to fix things is to recognize the ones we need to vote out or we will never end the quagmire of the 2ND Amendment. Law enforcement is one of the greatest violators of our right even when we have complied with the states requirements. I've carried for 15 years and each time I have had to disclose that I was armed I was immediately treated as a possible adversary and questioned as to why I needed to have a firearm. Most times my gun was removed from my possession while the officer was present and I was told not to reload it until the LE was out of the area. What a joke. We can only hope that someday things will be fixed but I think we will all have to work all the workarounds that are in place now for a while to come. We must keep working it at all levels though.

Tue, June 5, 2012 @ 5:35 AM

23. Jennifer wrote:
They need to allow conceal and cary in Illinois. It says in the constitution we have the right to bare arms,so they are going against there own constitution.

Sat, June 16, 2012 @ 12:26 PM

24. arleigh wrote:
I would like a list of congressmen that have CCW

Thu, September 13, 2012 @ 4:16 AM

25. Howard Manegold wrote:
There should be a background check a course and 2 tests just like getting a license if you pass you carry any where any time Gun control is ridiculous criminals will carry any time any where no matter what the penalty, CCW is a great deterrent to crime period if a criminal walks into a place and is surrounded by law abiding citizens with guns they are less likely to do anything cept go about their business and if they do go nuts it will probably be over much quicker then it is now because it takes any where from 5 to 20 mins for the police to respond if there are people willing to defend themselves the problem will be neutralized quicker, I understand the hesitation in issuing the nationwide permit because there are a lot of fools that carry legally but either way thats gonna happen there are a lot of fools that drive too and cars can kill multiple people too

Wed, March 27, 2013 @ 3:26 AM

26. Howard Manegold wrote:
There should be a background check a course and 2 tests just like getting a license if you pass you carry any where any time Gun control is ridiculous criminals will carry any time any where no matter what the penalty, CCW is a great deterrent to crime period if a criminal walks into a place and is surrounded by law abiding citizens with guns they are less likely to do anything cept go about their business and if they do go nuts it will probably be over much quicker then it is now because it takes any where from 5 to 20 mins for the police to respond if there are people willing to defend themselves the problem will be neutralized quicker, I understand the hesitation in issuing the nationwide permit because there are a lot of fools that carry legally but either way thats gonna happen there are a lot of fools that drive too and cars can kill multiple people too

I have had my CCW in Indiana for years now with no problems I was once in a bad situation where 5 guys were going to mug me all I had to do was show I had a weapon and that situation was over before it started so I am a firm believer in the right to carry.

Wed, March 27, 2013 @ 3:31 AM

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