GLENN BECK PROGRAM
GLENN: Ted Nugent is on phone with us. Ted.
NUGENT: Hey, happy October to you, Glenn.
GLENN: They tell me you like guns.
I'm fondling guns as we speak. I'm calling you from a beautiful Texas
campfire at a hunting camp here in Albany, Texas, campfires, cops,
heroes, military, plumbers, welders and teachers and ranchers and
guitar players and we all carry guns and we can't imagine how a human
being of consciousness, a human being of goodwill and decency and
certainly independence and knowledge and an understanding of good over
evil would ever go forth in this world in a known and intentional
unarmed helplessness. In the scenario you just talked about, Glenn,
horrifically, this unfolds on an hourly basis around the world and
certainly right here in the United States of America. And for people to
dismiss the horror and tragedy with which you are conveying on this
radio show and then still shake their heads, purse their lips and walk
out of their houses knowingly unarmed and helpless, it boggles my mind.
I can't imagine such a wimpy, helpless accepted condition, and I would
like people to man up, to freedom up, to good over evil up and people
should do what we've done around the country, get their concealed
weapons permit, train, get a modicum of tactical understanding of
weapon retention, weapon utility and stop evil and not wait for the
multiple stab wounds. Stop the person now. And Glenn, in every
instance, like this cop, this off-duty cop who stopped evil and
deadliness, we the people can do that. We're not stupid. I know who the
bad guy is and I'm just a guitar player.
GLENN: You know, Ted, you just got off your tour. Are you finished with it now or are you going back on?
Well, we take breaks during the hunting tone, but the tour never ends.
I had a greatest tour of my life, 77 concerts in 77 nights and that's
70 different cities that have 70 different gun laws. But like the U.S.
Marine Corps heroes that I train with, trained me, I improvise, adapt
and overcome. And I can tell you this, Mr. Beck. I as a father and as a
husband and as a good American neighbor, I will not go gently into that
night. I will not accept unarmed helplessness because Nancy Pelosi
dictates so. I will not accept that.
GLENN: You know, when I
find -- what I wanted to ask you about on, you know, your multicity
tour is you get a feel for the country and I tell you, Ted, I'm feeling
something I've never felt before. Last, what was it, last Thursday I
had two guys on the show. One is, you know, a Ben and Jerry's lover
from Vermont that just, you know, just can't get enough liberalism,
says that our courts, believe it or not, are too conservative and that
people should be set free and there's no use for the Constitution
anymore because it has been completely usurped and there's -- and
people, liberals, are being crushed by these conservatives and the way
they have distorted the Constitution. He was sitting in the same room
at a convention of about 20, I think it's 20,000 members at a
convention with another group. This guy was from Tennessee. He says the
Constitution has been destroyed, it's all states rights and the
Southerners have been kept down since, you know, 1865 or whatever it is
and these two actually are banning together. They don't agree with
anything. I mean, these two should hate each other. It's like Ann
Coulter and Michael Moore having a love fest.
NUGENT: Good grief.
And they are banning together to secede from the United States. You
have the guy from Reno last week that, he's a vet. He's a normal guy
and he saw the Mexican flag flying over the American flag in Reno and
the guy lost it and cut it down. And he said, you know what, you got to
fight me for this flag. You are not just going to come in here and take
over my country. We're being taken over slowly but surely, but I am
going to fight for it. And I see this and I wondered if you had picked
up on this, this great discontent in our country from people who are
saying enough is enough.
NUGENT: Well, certainly. I mean,
again I've been very fortunate. I've been touring since 19, since about
1962 and I do travel all over the country and it's just glowing with
positive energy, but there is a strange atmosphere out there where we
identify a disconnect from the bureaucrats who, we the people -- and
it's why your shows are so popular, why Rush Limbaugh is setting
records in broadcasting, why Sean Hannity is popular. There is a
self-evident truth in population, and it's the majority of us, Glenn,
it really is. Unfortunately too much apathy has silenced and gagged the
we the people that live by logic and the self-evident truths that are
constitutionally guaranteed and that we no our God-given rights, not
bureaucrat-given rights. So when you use the term "We the people,"
believe me the Nugent family and everybody listening, watching Glenn
Beck, we go damn right, that's what we need to get more of. We need to
be more active, we need to register, we need to vote, we need to
research the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the conditions
around the world where our founding fathers refuse tyrant tyranny, we
refuse slavery, we refused emperors and kings, we refused control by
bureaucrats in Europe and choosing what religion is authorized, whether
we can defend ourselves or not. And we wrote down these self-evident
truths in the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights. And you bet you,
Glenn, there is a real discontent because we the people feel that the
bureaucrats do not care to represent us accurately. But I see a
painfully slow growth in activism on my website every day. I was on --
in a deer blind this morning talking with people and sharing the
beautiful sunrise and the kind of points that you're bringing up, the
logic, the taking care of business, work ethic, being productive
instead of bloodsucking, to be good and positive instead of negative
and whining. What we can do for our country instead of what our country
can do for us. This is resonating around the land and I find in every
hunting camp I go to, every rock-and-roll concert I go to, every
charity event I go to that the big message here, Glenn, is what you
project. We the people have got to become more active. We've got to sit
down with our school administrators, at church, at the local community
centers. We've got to monitor how policies are made, how these
bureaucrats in New York City will literally force millions of people to
be unarmed and helpless and we are forced to run away when we see
someone stabbing someone because the bureaucrats won't let us stop evil
when 99.9% of us know exactly how to stop evil.
GLENN: Let me
ask you this, Ted. There's two things that come to mind. I think that
there could be -- I think there could be a perfect day scenario. There
could be -- there could be something that terrorists would launch on us
that could cause such great disruption in this country that I could see
us having some sort of a martial law kind of scenario, at least
temporarily in this country because it -- you know, our enemies want to
NUGENT: That's materialism they seek, no question.
Let's just say go down that road. You have somebody like Hillary
Clinton in office. I could also see then the next step saying, we have
got to get the hand -- guns out of the hands of the people; there's too
many guns on the street, and a lot of dopes going right along with it
just like they did in New Orleans, you know, right before they became a
third world country and they took away all of the guns there by
gunpoint. The question I have for you, Ted, is, A, do you believe that
we could get to a situation in a relatively, say in a five-year period
where you could see that scenario happening and, B, I have to tell you,
I know a lot of cops, and I think the cops are our future's best friend
because I don't think -- I don't know a cop that would come to my house
and say, I've got to get your gun. I don't know a cop that is for
disarming good, strong citizens. They want us to be on their side.
Again I have to clarify because I am just the extreme guitar player.
But when it comes down to taking a shower and calming down, I'm pretty
much a nice guy, a nice neighbor, I try to be a positive asset to this
great American dream, and I do so. And most of my friends, Glenn, are
cops and military heroes. And believe me, my friend, what you just
articulated is alive and well in the hearts and souls of those who have
sworn to God to support and uphold the Constitution and certain protect
we the people, the cops of this country and the military heroes of this
country are on the side of we the people, not someone like Nancy Pelosi
or Hillary Clinton or Obama or what happened down in New Orleans. Most
of the cops in this country, if they were told to go door to door and
disarm Americans, they would say, nope, can't do it. Won't do it. I'm
confident of that. But we've got to cultivate relationships with our
law enforcement. Citizens have to have a relationship with their state
trooper, who is a dedicated hero in every state I've been to. The
sheriff, the local police chief. We've got to -- you know, Glenn, I
wrote Wang Dang Sweet Poontang but I still introduced myself to the
sheriff and the constable and the chief of police and the state trooper
commander. I got to know these guys because I know that I'm their boss.
They serve and protect me. My dad and my mom taught me that. But I
think it's a rare relationship that I would like to see you prod and
encourage that more and more American citizens and neighborhoods should
have an ongoing, upbeat but prodding and probing relationship
communication with their law enforcement officials because now more
than ever the painful scenario of potential societal disruption is on
the cusp right now. I'm not predicting doom but I'm prepared. I have
that which I need to sustain my family. And again, Glenn, everybody I
know, they have adequate food, water, supplies. You know, most of my
buddies are rural. So we've got the firewood and we have the firepower
and we have relationships with law enforcement and National Guard where
we the people know that those heroes will be on our side, but we've got
to be prepared just like this cop yesterday or the day before who lost
his cool in Wisconsin and went nuts and killed people. We've got to
know and be cognizant of those kinds of signs and warning signals so
that we can raise a little bit of hell prior to the disruption so that
the officials who are in charge of those kinds of potentially dangerous
individuals will nip it in the bud, if you know what I'm saying.
I have to tell you, Ted, I couldn't agree with you more on reaching out
to your local police. I was asked a couple of weeks ago if I would help
a sheriff's department out in Idaho on something that they were working
on, and Sheriff Klingler's from Madison County in Idaho asked me to
come out. I don't give up my personal time easily. It means a lot to
me. And I was out in Idaho -- because I have connections to this
community -- helping him and helping the sheriff department on
something that they were working on, and I have to tell you if we don't
do this, if we don't recognize who our friends are, we're in real, real
-- we're in real, real trouble. Ted, one more thing. Let me ask you,
have you made a decision on if you had a gun to your head today -- and
I just want to make it very clear, you don't have one. But if you had a
gun to your head today, who would you vote for?
NUGENT: Do I really have to answer that question?
It's tough. My favorite man or individual running for the presidency of
the United States of America right now today, since you're holding that
gun to my head.
NUGENT: Is a man who
covers all the bases for we the people, the U.S. constitution, the Bill
of Rights, decency and that's Mike Huckabee.
GLENN: Mike Huckabee, I would have thought you were a Ron Paul guy.
Ron's a good man, Fred Thompson's a good man, I like Mitt Romney and
Mr. Giuliani on many levels. But no one in my estimation today -- and
I'm not voting today.
GLENN: No, no, if you had a gun to my head. We're the same way. I would never draw a gun on you because I'd lose.
But Mike Huckabee, I'm telling you I've spent time with the man, I've
watched how he conducts his personal life, his family life as governor
of the State of Arkansas.
GLENN: Oh, Ted, personal life doesn't -- personal life, personal life doesn't matter. You know that. You learned that.
NUGENT: Well, a person's moral compass, I believe.
GLENN: What did you say?
NUGENT: It's an indicator of a person's moral compass, I believe.
No! No! Bill Clinton told me. Bill Clinton told me personal life
doesn't -- just go in and do the right thing. You know, from 9:00 to
5:00. You can do whatever you want outside at 9:00 to 5:00.
NUGENT: I don't think so.
GLENN: All right. Ted, always good to talk to you, sir.
NUGENT: Glenn, God speed.
GLENN: You bet, bye-bye.
Fri, June 27, 2008
by Glenn Beck