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Better know your gun laws, and better yet, know your gun

This past week Giants receiver Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himself in a New York night club. He signed a $35 million dollar contract after making a significant contribution to winning last years super bowl. So he and his family were living the American Dream and living at the very top of the income bracket.

Where he made some mistakes were fairly obvious. He carried a firearm into a bar. I am not aware of any state that has laws allowing the normal citizen to carry a firearm into a bar. The second is that he did not fully understand how to use his firearm. The gun slid down his pants and went off when he tried to stop the gun from going all the way down his pants leg. He was carrying a round in the camber with the safety off, and not in a secure holster. The third was to drink and try to carry a gun. Alcohol and guns do not mix. The police will throw the book at you if you are around Alcohol and guns.

So a young man that has the American Dream by the tail may be facing jail time and potentially loosing his fortune just for carrying a fire arm into a bar, and not knowing how to safely carry the fire arm. It also makes me wonder if he had practiced very often, or did he just buy the gun?

This is a lesson we can all learn from. If your carry a gun, do not drink. If you are sober and carry a gun, know how to use your fire arm.

Happy trails and keep the lead down range. Clark

Posted on Sun, November 30, 2008 by Clark

58 comments (Add your own)

1. bernie wrote:: I just recently obtained a CCW for myself in the State of Maine. In this state the laws do seem a bit confusing as to where the line is drawn between legal and not legal carrying. In one area the regulation reads it is unlawfull to carry in a "posted liquor establishment". However the next paragraph reads that the amount of alcohol allowed in the holders bloodstream is similar to the drunk driving laws in this state. Another gray area is what is a posted liquor establishment? Just about every establishment has a perminant wet bar with a fixed sink. Does the rule if kids are allowed on premise than its OK to carry? While my trips to the bar are limited I do like to frequent restruants for dinner that have a bar in them and allow children on premise.
Wed, December 3, 2008 @ 11:48 AM
2. Larry wrote:: Not sure about Maine's laws. But in Washington state, it is legal to be in an establishment that serves alcohol and food. So long as the establishment does at least 50% of it's business in food. Also, Alcohol consumption while carrying is a big no-no in any state, no matter the amount. My suggestion would be to spend an hr with a competent attorney and get the facts on the laws in your state. it's well worth the couple of hundred bucks so you know exactly where you stand. Also, take notes while in your meeting, it's better if things are on paper so you can reference back at a later date. one more thing, find a lawyer that is "gun friendly" so that when different scenarios are discussed and he will know what you are talking about.
Sat, December 6, 2008 @ 6:14 PM
3. Jesse wrote:: I have a CCW permit in Minnesota and here we have no laws banning the carrying of a pistol in any establishment that serves alcohol. It is up to each individual business as to weather or not they wish to ban the carrying of firearms, and not very many do.
Mon, December 15, 2008 @ 10:25 AM
4. Bill Kirk wrote:: In the state of New Jersey a person cannot get a CCW unless you are politically connected or a police man..
Sun, December 28, 2008 @ 8:18 AM
5. Joe in pa wrote:: N.J. Sucks. 300,000 state employees in that little state. All with "free" medical care. Democrat run for quite some time. Tolls, property tax, sales tax have all been raised to support the bloated govmnt agenda there. More people on govmnt programs more govmnt employees = more democratic votes. Its political munchausen syndrome with these communst pricks! Small govmnt = big liberty !!!!!!
Tue, January 27, 2009 @ 4:21 AM
6. Marlon Harris wrote:: Greetings:

My recent gun safety course in Virginia explained that a gun can be carried into a bar but had to be visible. A concealed weapon was not allowed. The instructor noted that this would make you more of a target and could lead to altercations just because you had the weapon. His advice was to pick one;weapon or alcohol, and if you wanted to go to a bar, then leave the gun at home. Sounds like good advice.
Sat, January 31, 2009 @ 3:27 AM
7. Jon wrote:: In PA there is no law that says you can't go into a bar with a firearm. That is ridiculous. You want to make bars gun free zones now? Personally, I don't drink often, maybe once a month and when I do drink I don't drink a lot. Maybe once every other year I'll accidentally drink too much (with close friends in private)and when I do I am silly not stupid. I don't drive, I don't pick fights, or cause any sort of trouble. When I get my carry permit I fully intend to carry in bars and I will either not drink at all or drink a beer or two over the course of a few hours have some food talk to some girls and have a good time. In a bar I will act no differently with my firearm than anywhere else I choose to carry. My firearm will be concealed and will remain that way unless I have a very good reason (my life is in danger) to draw and use my firearm. Besides I want to carry because my personal security is important to me. Being drunk has a negative impact on my personal security hence it isn't something I am interested in doing. I don't need any damn laws telling me where I can and cannot carry be it a bar, place of worship, or a school.
Mon, February 9, 2009 @ 2:09 PM
8. James wrote:: Napa County, CA (that's right, California does give permits) The permit states directly on the front, "To any peace officer: this permit is to be seized if holder is found under the influence of any alcoholic beverage...".
Tue, February 10, 2009 @ 1:54 PM
9. Todd wrote:: No restrictions in Utah. Unless you are drunk.

http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQ.html#7

May I carry my loaded and concealed firearm into a bar or other drinking establishment?

There is nothing in state statute that prohibits permit holders from being in a bar with a concealed firearm. However, it is illegal to be intoxicated and in possession of a firearm. The level of intoxication that is considered illegal is the same standard as when driving a car. (.08 B.A.C.)
Sat, February 14, 2009 @ 8:06 PM
10. ronald wrote:: still confused about carrying guns in county, city, state golf courses and parks in ohio
Fri, February 27, 2009 @ 7:42 AM
11. homer wrote:: larry must read washingtons regulations.
rcw 9.41.300 weapons prohibited in certain places ... 1 unlawful to enter...
paragraph d that portion of an establishment classified by state liquor control board as off limits to persons under 21 years of age
Fri, August 28, 2009 @ 5:20 PM
12. homer wrote:: in washington when you apply for a ccw they hand you a little pamphlet with pictures of guns on it and all the regulations inside. if you cant read it and understand it you should not use guns
Fri, August 28, 2009 @ 5:29 PM
13. Sal wrote:: Waiting for Gun permit and was wondering detials of carrying a weapon. I cant find any do or donts for carrying in Pa. What if someone comes after you with a knife attempting to harm you, what can you do??

Does anyone have a website for do's and donts in Pa????

Thanks,
Mon, September 14, 2009 @ 10:27 AM
14. Dave wrote:: I live in CT and have had a carry permit for 15 years. I was always under the assumption that my gun had to be concealed. Even heard stories of people losing their licenses when their jacket rode up and exposed their weapon. Recently, a few friend have received their permits and we have been having a lot of discussion about the gun laws. The subject of having your weapon concealed has come up more than once and there is a huge difference of opinion. Does my weapon have to be concealed in CT? Where can I find this info online, as I've been to many Gov web sites?
Sat, January 2, 2010 @ 3:05 AM
15. Bella wrote:: I would like to know if anyone knows if you can carry a gun in a bar in Michigan or anywhere that serves alcohol please email me @ bellatrueblood@hotmail.com...
Sat, January 16, 2010 @ 1:50 PM
16. Guru wrote:: I too, am a bit confused about what is considered concealed in Nevada. As Dave wrote, if my jacket hikes up while putting it on and my weapon is exposed, is that grounds for being cited?
Wed, February 3, 2010 @ 7:08 PM
17. Flyguy wrote:: In Iowa, it states right on the permit "Invalid when using or consuming alcohol or illegal drugs".
The carrying and using of weapons is a sober man's (or woman's) business.
As to the discussion on whether to carry concealed or not; are you kidding me?
Who in their right mind would want to advertise that they are carrying a gun? The ONE advantage a civilian has with a weapon is that the bad guys don't know who's armed and who isn't. I am not giving up that advantage.
The number of people who know that I carry is very small; the majority of my friends/family/co-workers have no idea, and I plan on keeping it that way.
Fri, February 26, 2010 @ 4:37 AM
18. calvin wrote:: Ga.my home allows cc in a restrant NOT a bar where drinks are served alcohal as long as you dont drink...
dorks say "how do the servers etc know if your carrying"...DUH its called honor.

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Mon, March 8, 2010 @ 8:17 AM
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20. Eugene K wrote:: Connecticut is actually an OPEN Carry state. Technically, the law states that you are not required to carry concealed; however, if someone calls the police because they can see you have a gun- depending on the responsponding officers discretion and temperment, you may be charged with breach of Peace and possibly have your firearm confiscated & firearm permit revoked-We teach many aspects of firearms laws in our Pistol Safety Courses
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27. ima_guy wrote:: Why is this article even posted on concealedcarry.net? It is MISIMFORMATION of the highest order. There are many states which allow one to carry in bars, and drink while carrying too! And there aren't any shootouts because of it! Get a clue.....THEN write an article.

If this site wants to retain any credibility whatsoever, they will pull this article from their blog.
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30. Jane wrote:: Why the f**k do people feel the need to carry guns everywhere? I am from Australia and we have a complete civilian gun ban, except for work related purposes or heritage guns.
The amount of mishaps and deaths caused by these things is mindboggling. Get rid of your guns america!

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35. Steve wrote:: For starters, in many states such as PA and CT just to name two. Concealed carry is allowed in bars. In PA you can even have a drink while carrying. In Virginia, carry is also allowed establishments serving alcohol so long as you are openly carrying.

Moreover, the weapon he was carrying has been identified as a glock. ALL firearms made by glock do have multiple passive safety devices to prevent accidental discharge. So the safety was indeed engaged until his hand contacted the trigger and disabled them. To this point, he was carrying a firearm, not a gun.

About the only thing you got right in your original blog post is that he was not carrying with a proper holster.

Just for the record, open carry is allowed in CT, and most other states for that matter. No where in CT law will you find a law against openly carrying a firearm, nor is simply seeing a firearm reason for distress according to the law. Since we live in a common law society, open carry is in fact legal.

Get your facts straight before you post falsehoods on the internet.
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36. Chip wrote:: can anyone help me,my friend who is a business owner was told he did not have to have a c&c to carry a fire arm when transportinghis money to the bank.
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56. Tyson Bradford wrote:: You MAY carry a firearm into any bar, however in most states it is illegal to be intoxicated and in posession of a firearm. So IF you carry, don't drink, cause as long as you don't you're legal as long as you have a permit for the gun.
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58. Paul wrote:: therealedwin | I know CCW holders are reilnossbpe people, I'm one of them. I just thought that Florida would have a higher case of misuse. But keep in mind that these stats do not count those who conceal carry without a license. In other words, we only have stats on the reilnossbpe ones.You have to be reilnossbpe to obtain a concealed permit so to answer you question, they are more likely to be the ones to get it. Because if you are not and obtain a criminal record, you will be denied a CCL.My experience with getting a concealed carry permit here could not have been more positive. Everyone was friendly and had all the paperwork for me to read and fill out.
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